Comments on: The Most Irritating Theological Topic of All Time? Eschatology. http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-most-irritating-theological-topic-of-all-time-eschatology/ Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:32:17 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Why Oprah Just Might Be the Antichrist… « Purging my soul…one blog at a time. http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-most-irritating-theological-topic-of-all-time-eschatology/#comment-1244 Why Oprah Just Might Be the Antichrist… « Purging my soul…one blog at a time. Sun, 23 Nov 2008 22:46:08 +0000 http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-1244 [...] Will Christians be raptured before then? Boy, could I feel a headache coming on! I’ve said in this post how much I hate popular forms of eschatology for this exact reason. So, this time around, I decided [...] [...] Will Christians be raptured before then? Boy, could I feel a headache coming on! I’ve said in this post how much I hate popular forms of eschatology for this exact reason. So, this time around, I decided [...]

]]> By: Emi http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-most-irritating-theological-topic-of-all-time-eschatology/#comment-893 Emi Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:05:18 +0000 http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-893 Sorry about that smiley! I don't know how it sneaked in :) (Okay, that one was mine.) Sorry about that smiley! I don’t know how it sneaked in :) (Okay, that one was mine.)

]]> By: Emi http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-most-irritating-theological-topic-of-all-time-eschatology/#comment-892 Emi Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:03:45 +0000 http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-892 Christians are being persecuted today, yes, as they have been since the beginning. As the Lord said, "'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you." But the Scriptures are clear on the tribulation being a time of: Divine judgment on unbelievers, and: "Jacob's trouble". As 1 Thessalonians 1:10 reminds us, "Jesus...delivers us from the wrath to come." And in Romans 5:8-9, "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him." Yet the tribulation is described as being "the great day of His wrath" (Rev. 6:17), vividly illustrated in chapters 4-18. It is clear that the tribulation the Lord described in Matthew 24-25 is that great Tribulation of the last days, ("what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?") with the emphasis on Jacob's trouble. This discourse deals primarily with the Jewish part in the great Tribulation. "Let those who are in JUDEA flee" ... "pray that your flight may not be...on the Sabbath". The Church is not to be seen at all in any of the prophecies or parables of the Olivet discourse. It is all about Jacob's trouble. Christians are being persecuted today, yes, as they have been since the beginning. As the Lord said, “‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you.”

But the Scriptures are clear on the tribulation being a time of: Divine judgment on unbelievers, and: “Jacob’s trouble”.

As 1 Thessalonians 1:10 reminds us, “Jesus…delivers us from the wrath to come.” And in Romans 5:8-9, “But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him.” Yet the tribulation is described as being “the great day of His wrath” (Rev. 6:17), vividly illustrated in chapters 4-18.

It is clear that the tribulation the Lord described in Matthew 24-25 is that great Tribulation of the last days, (“what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”) with the emphasis on Jacob’s trouble. This discourse deals primarily with the Jewish part in the great Tribulation. “Let those who are in JUDEA flee” … “pray that your flight may not be…on the Sabbath”. The Church is not to be seen at all in any of the prophecies or parables of the Olivet discourse. It is all about Jacob’s trouble.

]]> By: Sam http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-most-irritating-theological-topic-of-all-time-eschatology/#comment-871 Sam Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:28:25 +0000 http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-871 Emi - I beleive in a time of judgment as well...but it's not the tribulation. I'm not sure where your getting your info from, but the tribulation is certainly about persecution. See Jesus's Olivet discourse - he describes the events of tribulation that the disciples and others would soon face. Like I said, the Sudanese think they are in the great tribulation right now. Emi –

I beleive in a time of judgment as well…but it’s not the tribulation. I’m not sure where your getting your info from, but the tribulation is certainly about persecution. See Jesus’s Olivet discourse – he describes the events of tribulation that the disciples and others would soon face. Like I said, the Sudanese think they are in the great tribulation right now.

]]> By: Emi http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-most-irritating-theological-topic-of-all-time-eschatology/#comment-866 Emi Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:15:08 +0000 http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-866 Believing a tribulation is coming is about "just wait til the tribulation, buddy"? The Bible clearly teaches that a time of Divine judgment is pending upon this world. 2 Peter 3:1-13 speaks of this time, as well as Revelations 5-19. The tribulation is not about Christians suffering for their faith. It is about God judging this wicked, unbelieving world, and about the time of "Jacob's trouble". Believing a tribulation is coming is about “just wait til the tribulation, buddy”?
The Bible clearly teaches that a time of Divine judgment is pending upon this world. 2 Peter 3:1-13 speaks of this time, as well as Revelations 5-19.
The tribulation is not about Christians suffering for their faith. It is about God judging this wicked, unbelieving world, and about the time of “Jacob’s trouble”.

]]> By: Why Oprah Just Might Be the Antichrist… « Purging my soul…one blog at a time. http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-most-irritating-theological-topic-of-all-time-eschatology/#comment-809 Why Oprah Just Might Be the Antichrist… « Purging my soul…one blog at a time. Wed, 23 Jul 2008 00:56:24 +0000 http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-809 [...] Will Christians be raptured before then? Boy, could I feel a headache coming on! I’ve said in this post how much I hate popular forms of eschatology for this exact reason. So, this time around, I tried [...] [...] Will Christians be raptured before then? Boy, could I feel a headache coming on! I’ve said in this post how much I hate popular forms of eschatology for this exact reason. So, this time around, I tried [...]

]]> By: Sam http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-most-irritating-theological-topic-of-all-time-eschatology/#comment-398 Sam Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:06:18 +0000 http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-398 Ben - Thanks for commenting. Yeah, I agree with you on your stance. In the end, as long as Jesus comes back, I'm good. :) That's part of the reason more detailed eschatological models concern me. Once someone digs their heels in as to when the Antichrist will appear and what he'll do exactly, then they're stuck. So they work overtime to confirm their own beliefs. To me, that detracts from the relationship building process with God. Thanks for the return add. I enjoy your topics and insight as well. Feel free to comment anytime. Sam Ben –

Thanks for commenting. Yeah, I agree with you on your stance. In the end, as long as Jesus comes back, I’m good. :) That’s part of the reason more detailed eschatological models concern me. Once someone digs their heels in as to when the Antichrist will appear and what he’ll do exactly, then they’re stuck. So they work overtime to confirm their own beliefs. To me, that detracts from the relationship building process with God.

Thanks for the return add. I enjoy your topics and insight as well. Feel free to comment anytime.

Sam

]]> By: kangaroodort http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/2008/04/09/the-most-irritating-theological-topic-of-all-time-eschatology/#comment-397 kangaroodort Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:49:36 +0000 http://samnunnally.wordpress.com/?p=63#comment-397 Hey Brother, The only thing I am covinced of with regards to eschatology is that Christ's return will be post trib and that full preterism is heretical. Beyond that it is still all up in the air for me. Anyway, thanks for linking to my site. I will be adding you to my blogroll. God Bless, Ben Hey Brother,

The only thing I am covinced of with regards to eschatology is that Christ’s return will be post trib and that full preterism is heretical. Beyond that it is still all up in the air for me.

Anyway, thanks for linking to my site. I will be adding you to my blogroll.

God Bless,
Ben

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